Yesterday in the Debate calm demeanor. I was not leave a record.
for the first time today, in June, We need intelligible, sometimes we will need the garden maze ; strange a goal, to comment on such a practical and news style clear view of the efficient delivery goals are different.
, of course, generally lively presentation that can effectively promote the understanding and dissemination of ideas, this rule I have not Law no. Confucius said: News comments and function of literature in the language still has a fundamental difference: that is, in press comments, the language does not have a separate value, all for the efficiency and effectiveness of communication and service. Therefore, the French literary theorist, of Russian formalism Experts Todorov literary theory in the kinds of self-sufficiency of the language. an end in itself, is no longer a means of Lei asked to accept less language news reviews opinion is vivid; but never to retreat to the utility functions.
and less Lei, I do not regard the vivid language, visualization, as the (exclusive) Labyrinth Because last week a book club Lei less welcome, but come up with a debate on the commentary and essays. In fact this debate I have been to avoid involvement. not to mention your friends. This is what I have not been recalled to write Notes this reason, busy is another reason.
but less Lei wrote a long article for this, I also can not help but keep abreast of feedback mm
less Lei, not so much me, the style and the different kinds of essays, it is better that I was , and an open mind resources. This is not style issues. and these are [now] the limitations of essays.
The decline of the essay, can have multiple interpretations, but at least [I [Choice of the many social roles, because they do not there is any Few know the press is the original human, but more of a community. If you want to demonstrate the existence circle and studied under Commentary, first demonstrated the existence of these essays, as essay writing team, smaller than the commentary.
essays have been published in their own space. It is how the space is shrinking, and to ask its own [and editing of it] is. this process, I have experienced. You can not turn to ask resulting from [prosperity] of Why compressed Commentary essay space. is not it such a logic?
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2007-06-03 18:17 Reply
less Lei, Notes in this view to be my response:
a particular narrative, ;, even with the Response:
Lei less intelligible to the current events survey said to be ABCD, as the twists and turns of his mildly essay likened to the designed for universal role of narrative, not the topic I created, so no need to bother to refute Lei less. We only need to demonstrate in the mass media's expectations of how many people need intelligible, how many people need the the.
that the novel does not apply to intelligible and essays do not apply to intelligible, it is not self-evident truth. I draw attention to the difference between commentary and essays, the essays by beginners just afraid of and not intelligible to speak it mm for editing and commentary essay editing done for me, have seen a lot of I am not responsible for the decline of its own responsibility.
In addition, no new ideas on the essay question of resources, I am in the Zhu Jianguo essays home but a few years ago, science and other disciplines of knowledge as a support, the essays tend to be mediocre, not enough sense of depth and thickness of which determines the essay hh general trend is towards extinction. words; November 2001 We look back at his previous blog post, which wrote: easy to understand, Lu Xun's novel word may finish:
1) spiritual victory is the people's evil, and everyone has left out;
3) > 5) , which are not in the demonstration and commentary should be how to write their respective novels, but Debate status. really want to debate, then, need to stand clear view:
1, I Ting Commentary 4, I ; responsible?
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less Lei: Haha, like the type of rigorous Shaohua. I that thing, is more or less sort out Sharon's point of view, if there is indeed a scene out of touch, then catch omissions. But overall speaking, I do not give up their basic views, and so little free time, I write an article to discuss the mm is not to bicker and persuasion, is to enable in-depth understanding of their own. finishing that thing, there are Sharon, in which the meaning of contrast, the memory of that day is really good.
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2007-06-04 14:56 Reply
second time :2007-11-06 | ; one can replace the word? (Comment lesson log)
after the text message:
less Lei:
hey, I'm afraid of is the same old tune again.
we wrote the paper, Even the written commentary (not literature), to do this: not to mention only the aggregate of individuals, public sector management course, do not worry about what Bai hh
read to the old lady, but understand what the old lady, not all comparable to Bai. Bai is back to nature, not really Cold factors, it is one of many in pursuit of a branch of style, not only desirable option.
sometimes is to use, not to mention it also because we see those cliches Shenmeipilao commentary, you need to read the text to attract strangeness .
Again, I think some long sentences Shaohua some, not so much text, or plain old Austrian.
I mean, not only let more people understand, but also to have seen mm looked comfortable people understand. That is, the cost of cultural word reading skills to find a degree. and then in other words, the article relative to the entire population of the appeal does not depend on reading costs (simple plain) this indicator.
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2007-11-07 16:45 Reply
Shaohua:
attracted by the strangeness of the text read, is by no means the pursuit of commentary, but the pursuit of literature, but also the pursuit of pure literature. because literature, is the In the > who is familiar with the provisions of the proposition must be literature? Strangeness is the article I thought the proposition mm may be, it's just in different styles in different sizes the role played by Bale. For example, you had recommended that the teaching of sociology look good, I think it is important that the text is not only the text of the strangeness mm, there are the narrative tone of the strangeness contribution to the readability (and thus also contribute to the efficiency of transmission). this can be said that academic text, strange theories as effective?
the comments in the news, not to mention not have to, but not must not be let alone, if all of 1000 with more, not to mention why I can not occasionally look? Of course I've never used The word, I just to say, write a review of the time, not always popular to be a little word, replace the words a little elegant mm and regardless of training topics and the reader.
arrived, the arrival of a spent force, the arrival of a complete hit. I want to say, Well find this degree.
publisher Wangshao Lei (not verified) (
2007-11-07 21:44 Reply
Shaohua:
The fundamental difference is: they are practical text, text that is used to convey ideas, do not appreciate their own space, obtaining the means to carry on .. forget his words and (pure) literature , that is, through the reach a total hit, It is completely different from the arrival mm is not giving up.
For many readers, the news quickly read the text, the -07 22:10 Reply
less Lei:
I agree, I once again say is that if the maximum degree of common sense is the best message? If so, why the strenuous scrutiny frame of the text, instead of the cost of a smaller mm read this: About Comfort transportation problem, this paper has the following point of view of one two three?
so I definitely do not agree with Shaohua next words, and enjoy the space with the transmission of this positive correlation.
example, said: Fabre is the so-called affect the reader's point of view, in order to increase the efforts made literature is valuable?
if the news were all the style, then we take a look at the Pulitzer Prize winning feature articles Standards: In addition to the exclusive news, investigative reporting and live coverage outside the common characteristics of the award-winning, feature articles mainly on account of high literary quality and originality (cited in China News Research Centre www.cddc.net/shownews.asp?newsid=10416 - 29k -). In fact, it has been said: dynamic mechanism, all the words are replaced by the more popular word synonymous mm Although, in general speaking, the pursuit of our popular one (but it is not the pursuit of our language should be the only parameter)
fact, this is very good understanding of pills is the application of style, right? why are wrapped in a layer of sugar coating the text? Why can not obtaining the efficacy of adult meaning, forget the words of its taste it?
you say, news text, the unfamiliar is risky, text is not always quick to read, such as mobile phones I ordered the Xinhua report, the morning it is called expression or one two three, the most sense of speed reading.
not to mention the academic style, Some articles incomprehensible hate it, but like some other articles of complicated skills (reminds me of a toilet in the reading of Mr. Oh, the choices are interesting)
publisher Wangshao Lei (not verified) (
2007 - 11-08 06:05
Shaohua:
Lei less eloquently, it seems that whirl open to debate with me friends. arguments are very abundant. really hard to argue me. I'm stumped and then stop it.
However, the less they will inevitably Lei instead of argument by analogy. such as practical style, Fabre's no. things side by side relationship is not such a simple relationship. At least I do not do it. and not want to do so.
As for taking beyond the scope of information to the text of the bar. Pulitzer that feature articles of the selection criteria, this argument is also more powerful because, it says it mm, I must admit. This is the feature articles for the special reason why, because it exceeds the The general specifications of news style.
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2007-11-08 15:00 Reply
less Lei:
sum up: I do not agree! but the basic point finish, not take the time Oh Shaohua. discussion is not to persuade, but not for that,
be wordy last few words: I believe he is not for Fabre as essayist, but as an entomologist, he was impressive because the text used in the literature mm inadvertently left a position, which happens that does not exclude the application of literary style, and the need to literature. insects in mind of course is particularly the case, although I consider the context of the times it is given its highest rating, but do not claim that all of the academic culture to be so casual.
s Second, the Pulitzer Prize awards to actually be For news of China's communication style is not? but they at least belong to the application of style, right? and then combine the above arguments hh
publisher Wangshao Lei (not verified) (
2007-11-08 15:44 Reply
Shaohua:
Well, I'll just in front of the most difficult arguments (the Pulitzer Prize for feature articles standard) before the stop or give it.
messages and comments, particularly news, reflected the news media the general laws, or style compared to other special laws. and feature articles, news style may reflect the special laws, or part of the news text or similar to other sports there are the universal law.
we can not because Controversy and ignore the existence of something it mm or ignore the message, or ignore the feature articles.
I put the inverted pyramid news and comments in one hundred twenty-three to as sugar-coated pills, they are not to make people forget remember. Their existence is to efficiently deliver content. Therefore, they themselves should not be aware that there is no aesthetic value.
publisher Ma Shaohua's blog (
2007-11-08 18:43 Reply
less Lei in this article with a fractional after a very long message Although there is no single value of the language, but it does not mean no value. I did the relative emphasis on Shenmeipilao so severe forms of communication, almost affect our access to communication content. the skin, the hair stand?
We all agree that the purpose of commentary is dissemination of efficiency; difference is whether the literature for improving the efficiency of help? my opinion, the press in reference to the performance of the literary form, may be more than the and the There are also non-news type items, but still no doubt feature articles news style, and almost including explanatory report, investigative reporting, predictive reports, service reports, and other news figures close hh style than most. From In this sense, features Bute, might not say it is not the field, the king old man squatting hh
This is the textbook example of feature-type Lead: What a mighty air YORK owl! a pair of eyes is something fire, wings slightly arched, it seems that it is ready to vibration wing swoop past, capture the cunning large vole. only with a palm tree stump material according Arts and carved into the owls, most recently over the Pacific Ocean, in San Francisco's mm literature do you think of it (I personally do not like this blurb)?
we look at , waiting for President Ford from the front of them. more emphasis on practical literary works). But the cost of communication effects are not always inversely proportional with the language. Because audiences are not machines, they are reading psychology is extremely complex. and we must admit that sometimes the reader is willing to take a moment to read a little cost, in the main access to information information also contributed to enjoy the time mm beauty of the language (of course there are degrees).
this fact can also be seen in the Pulitzer Prize for debate. from 1917, the editorial vacancy Award several times, reason is that the industry that the lack of enthusiasm for editorial writing, ;, it can learn from the literary point of passion?
must be noted that debate thing I read Notes from Shaohua mm brought me such an impression: writing, be sure to find a more popular term, to replace the synonymous with the word a little bit elegant. If the thing I read in the expression of Notes held like this, maybe I will agree with both hands. It is what I reiterate, the only popular as opposed to the only parameter to improve communication efficiency. I that for certain readers, popular (to Hancang) for improving the transmission efficiency may well backfire. In other words, I agree with simple principle of popular journalism, but writing on the news does not mean that China must use the most simple Chinese characters.
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